"I think these are a little too short and a bit too chunky to work well as formal oxfords -- I won't wear them with any of my suits. However, as a smart-casual shoe to wear with nice jeans, chinos, etc., these are AMAZING. I've had a pair of these in black and brown that I've been wearing for about four years, and they're only now beginning to really start to wear out on me. For the price, these are an excellent value for nice casual."